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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:17 AM

If there is a guy and a girl, teenagers, who reeally like each other.
they didn't plan to but they had intercourse.. are they allowed to kill the baby?
And also what are the punishments of this?

#2 Mu'mina

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 04:10 PM

*bump*

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 07:05 PM

View Postworried, on 29 June 2011 - 08:17 AM, said:

If there is a guy and a girl, teenagers, who reeally like each other.
they didn't plan to but they had intercourse.. are they allowed to kill the baby?
And also what are the punishments of this?



Kill the baby after birth, or do you mean abortion?

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:39 PM

the punnishment is the baby is given birth bought up by the mother and when the child reaches a certain age the parents go through death penalty not the child who should be aborted, hadith regarding this matter, couldnt find the hadith so posted the commentry below.

Imam al-Nawawi (may Allah's Mercy be upon him) said in his comments on Sahih Muslim concerning al-Ghamidiyah (a woman committed Zina): 'The Prophetic expression "Until you give birth" indicates that a pregnant should not be stoned before giving birth. Also, an unmarried woman should not be lashed before giving birth. There is agreement among scholars on this point. Then, she (a pregnant woman) should not be punished until she suckles her child or he/she becomes satisfied with some women's suckling' .

But since khilafah doesnt exist, this cannot be done, what the best opinion here is to best check what a scholar says, islam qa is a good plae to go and check on this matter.

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:10 PM

Teenagers, unmarried = no stoning.

Married and convicted = stoning.

Of course you cant kill the child, whatever gave you that bizarre idea.

Edited by Wafa, 29 June 2011 - 09:11 PM.


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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:47 PM

so they are not allowed to take the pills, for sure? even though they are really young & have school etc..
yes i meant abortion

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 02:33 AM

Why kill it? Because they don't want others to find out, or because they don't think they can take care of it?

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:14 AM

View Postanon, on 29 June 2011 - 09:47 PM, said:

so they are not allowed to take the pills, for sure? even though they are really young & have school etc..
yes i meant abortion


Reality Check: No one cares if you have school or how young you are. Should have thought of that before you decide to pull down your pants. This is a serious matter. You thought you were responsible enough to have sex well then be responsible enough to handle the consequences. Act like a man or a woman and do what you need to do that doesn't involve screwing over an unborn child. Abortion is serious: not a convenient option to clean up after yourself.

In America, if you are under 18 you need parental consent for an abortion. I am not sure how it works in other countries but they are likely to have something similar. I doubt they simply let anybody, at any age walk in and get it over with. So if your intention is to hide a pregnancy, then you may want to reevaluate that plan.

If anyone is in fact pregnant in this situation, then your best option is to bite the bullet and no matter how scared you may be right now, you absolutely need to talk to your parents. After much screaming and possibly nailing your behind to the wall, they might come around and accept the child.

In any case, your reputation will definitely get tarnished but that just comes with the package. Hold your head up high and forget about everybody else. This is between you, Allah and your partner. Going through social, parental execution is far more superior than committing murder.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:54 AM

View Postworried, on 29 June 2011 - 08:17 AM, said:

If there is a guy and a girl, teenagers, who reeally like each other.
they didn't plan to but they had intercourse.. are they allowed to kill the baby?
And also what are the punishments of this?


Everyone makes mistakes, and people do sin.

The important fact is that you repent and then deal with it in the right way inshAllah.


For whoever this is, it is important that they take care of the child. The child is real, and even if you think you are young it is still a human being. It is your family, and brave what you must to be with that child.

InshAllah, this child becomes a way for you to earn forgiveness for mistakes that have been made =).

And don't be scared, support always comes! Parents, even if they do get upset, will still try to support their children generally. May Allah make it easy for you!

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:11 AM

And ask Allah for forgiveness and ask him for help.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 12:25 PM

can the mother/father of the child pray for the child/for themselves... although the child and the actions are haraam?
and jazakallah for all the responses

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 12:26 PM

View PostAbu Muhammad, on 30 June 2011 - 02:33 AM, said:

Why kill it? Because they don't want others to find out, or because they don't think they can take care of it?


because of both?

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 12:21 AM

Just to stress...do not harm the baby.

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 02:05 AM

how old is the child, has it been of 120days age yet?

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 02:50 PM

i swear i would run away or go missing....but definitely dont kill the baby...May Allah give u ease and the ability to sincerely repent :(




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